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  ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.

  i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.

  it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.

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  The reeeeeeaaaaaaaallllllll issue is: why is there a "sex offenders list"?

  So that people have a chance to protect themselves. At least they have a chance.

  As seen from the Australia Royal Commission, WT headquarters DOES have a 'sex offenders list' of their own, that the GB COULD make available and INSTRUCT elders to warn & inform to protect children, as they repeatedly say "we abhor child abuse".

  They abhor it? What do they do about it? They don't comply with court orders, and turn them over.

  Even if the law does not require it, they are morally & spiritually responsible to protect these children from being stumbled and protected from offenders.

  (Matthew 18:6) 6 But whoever stumbles one of these little ones who put faith in me, it is more beneficial for him to have hung around his neck a millstone such as is turned by an ass and to be sunk in the wide, open sea.

  
  
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  Wife is Awake

  by freemindfade in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  following the news of stuckinarut2, over the past few months my wife has completely mentally woken up.

  i've been meaning to post but haven't had the time.

  i saw stuckins post and i figured i'd add my news too.

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  Congratulaaaaaaaaaaaaations!!!!! Welcome ;-) Please ask her (sometime in future) if she can put her two cents in as to what helped along the way!

  cha ching!
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  Trey Bundy 13-minute interview at C.I.R. headquarters re: allegations of sex abuse among JWs. You will find this video quite "revealing"

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.facebook.com/thisisreveal/videos/1265278083563107/?utm_source=reveal+newsletters&utm_campaign=41ea55c5ef-the_weekly_reveal_01_10_17&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c38de7c444-41ea55c5ef-229964425.

  january 5, 2017. reporter trey bundy discusses his reporting on allegations of sex abuse among jehovah’s witnesses.

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  Exactly, OrphanCrow..... just ice cream money to WT!

  Maddening! I hope the courts have just let this time flow by to see the true intentions/ motivations of WT towards the justice system in America.

  Perhaps, if THIS becomes the issue, things will begin to change.
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  Trey Bundy 13-minute interview at C.I.R. headquarters re: allegations of sex abuse among JWs. You will find this video quite "revealing"

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.facebook.com/thisisreveal/videos/1265278083563107/?utm_source=reveal+newsletters&utm_campaign=41ea55c5ef-the_weekly_reveal_01_10_17&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c38de7c444-41ea55c5ef-229964425.

  january 5, 2017. reporter trey bundy discusses his reporting on allegations of sex abuse among jehovah’s witnesses.

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  cha ching

  Vidiot....

  more and more I kind of view WT "anybodies" as calculators.

  How long will it take before everyone figures out we are fake?

  How long will it take before our dream retirement home is done, and we don't have to worry if they find out it's fake?

  How long before we have to go to court, will we have enough money to buy ourselves out of whatever we are in?

  cha ching! cha ching! cha ching!
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  Press in SPAIN report JW members go to JW headquarters to file a complaint for not receiving documents on cases of abuse they requested

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.lainformacion.com/politica/derechos-humanos/exmiembros-testigos-jehova-denunciaran-entregarles_0_990801892.html.

  http://www.telecinco.es/informativos/sociedad/exmiembros-testigos-jehova-denunciaran-entregarles_0_2308950586.html.

  https://okdiario.com/sociedad/2017/01/16/ex-miembros-testigos-jehova-acusan-organizacion-ocultar-ley-miles-casos-abusos-sexuales-menores-671613jehovah's witness members will report to the organization for failing to provide them with documents regarding child abuse.

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  cha ching

  That's an interesting way to put it, and very well said:

  "when a member of Jehovah's Witnesses is accused of sexual abuse, congregations have "secret" courts with internal rules that judge cases and "silence the victims."

  Perhaps if it is called, what it really is, courts will begin to comprehend the gravity of what JWs do. They have their own court system.

  1. They don't have to go to school to learn laws, they make up their own rules

  2. They don't have to answer to any "higher" courts (save the GB)

  3. "Vicitims" are silenced....

  Sounds like what the mafia does.
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  Watchtower Publications To Give Away

  by bigmouth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it's now time to clear out my old literature lest it fall into the right hands.. there is a fairly large range of books, volumes, pamphlets and various keepsakes.

  some are unusual, say, part issues of the aid book and a live forever book that has had paragraphs altered in subsequent copies.

  i am in hoppers crossing, melbourne.

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  I think that it is great that you offer them, as all books are like gems, links to the past, proof of insanity, valuable to learn from, preventing or making it harder to lie.

  I hope your documentation finds a home.

  cha ching
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  Trey Bundy 13-minute interview at C.I.R. headquarters re: allegations of sex abuse among JWs. You will find this video quite "revealing"

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.facebook.com/thisisreveal/videos/1265278083563107/?utm_source=reveal+newsletters&utm_campaign=41ea55c5ef-the_weekly_reveal_01_10_17&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c38de7c444-41ea55c5ef-229964425.

  january 5, 2017. reporter trey bundy discusses his reporting on allegations of sex abuse among jehovah’s witnesses.

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  Trey was asked, "If JWs are so secretive, how did this end up on your desk? "

  Trey: "This was one of those mythological journalism moments that never happens… but it happened to us…. So this is what happened… A package arrived one day, it was about that thick… and at the top was a sampling of those memos … we followed a trail around the world talking to ex JWs."

  What I like is that Trey has a handle on the way things work, just listen at 4:00 when he explains the investigative process and how the JWs don’t want to ‘ruin his (the perpetrator's) name’ (at 4:39) if there isn’t enough proof.

  He covers the DF process, smoking, getting drunk, speaking out against the org, fornication, etc. You are shunned, but allowed to comeback to the meetings, and “it’s love”, so we will shun you so long that you can’t stand it so long you will want to come back.

  Trey explains about forms that elders have to fill out, and that it gets entered into an electronic data base (which I didn’t know… I thought it was all paper trail by the way WT said “it would take years to find them all”…)

  He is in touch with Irwin Zalkin & hears that, as of late, the WT has not paid one cent of the $4,000 a day yet.

  Trey has asked all levels of law enforcement why the WT is allowed to do such a thing. He ties commissions in Australia, England into the way perhaps the people in the US might get a foothold into cracking this unfair manner of dealing with pedophilia, because, after all.... the US is the base headquarters for all of these branches around the world.
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  Feb. 2017 "Who is Leading God's People Today?"

  by Saethydd in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i know that i am not by any means the first person to take note of this article, but today i finally got around to reading it.

  i quickly found the now infamous line "the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.

  " in the interest of fairness, however, i decided to finish the paragraph, which led me to finish the lesson.

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  An ex friend of mine clinnnngggggssss to this type of reasoning, as she was praying when JWs came to her door... I believe it is her last thread of hope...
  

  "It rained once after I did a rain dance that's how I know it must work." That's about the same logic being used in this paragraph. They make the classic of mistake of assuming that a correlation means causation. Firstly, since these supposed angels are invisible and unwilling to testify there is no way to verify their involvement. Secondly, the fact that "many" (a rather vague amount if I do say so myself) cases have a publisher calling upon someone who has just prayed does not prove angelic direction, especially when one takes a moment to consider numbers that are involved. With several million people spending almost two billion hours year (over 5 million man hours a day) then a number of them are bound to come across people who have been praying recently.

  I love this illustration..... it is what I have been trying to put into words for quite some time... I mean, I have thought of Mormons going door to door, people praying, Mormons coming... Does that make it God directed?
  

  But the rain dancer? ...... excellent!

  thx! cha ching!
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  Feb. 2017 "Who is Leading God's People Today?"

  by Saethydd in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i know that i am not by any means the first person to take note of this article, but today i finally got around to reading it.

  i quickly found the now infamous line "the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.

  " in the interest of fairness, however, i decided to finish the paragraph, which led me to finish the lesson.

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  "A recent book on religion in the United States notes: “Christian leaders have regularly revised their teachings to match the beliefs and opinions gaining support among their members and in the larger society.”

  Well, we know for sure now! "A recent book on religion" said it... it must be true.... Why are we trusting "worldly" books? hmm? "Worldly" books are great, especially without any 'Title, Author, Year, Page number'
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  Scientology: A War Without Guns' on ABC News 20/20 Tonight

  by Gayle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ‘scientology: a war without guns’ airs on abc news’ ‘20/20,’ friday, january 6. posted 1/5/2017 .

  ‘20/20’ reports on ex-members of the church of scientology: those who are crusading against it and others who still practice outside the church .

  actress leah remini sits down with anchor dan harris to discuss her fight against the church.

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  thanks Gayle! I am so glad for the heads up, it was a very interesting watch.... especially when they interviewed the Monique, the lawyer for Scientology... So much like WT lawyers....